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AMA & AARP have annouced they support Dem Health Care Bill

"Washington (CNN) --
The push to overhaul health care received a major boost Thursday as the American Medical Association and AARP endorsed legislation drafted by top House Democrats.
The AARP, the nation's largest organization of older Americans, is a nonpartisan group that advocates for people 50 and older. The AMA, historically an opponent of health care reform, is considered one the nation's most influential doctors' advocacy groups.
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Well there you have it. Some misleading lies are being staightened out one at a time.
1. Medicair will not be weaked but strengthened by this bill. Why would AARP support it otherwise, their very survival depends on not screwing over the seniors.

2. AMA doctors support the bill so they believe that beaurocrats will not get in the way of the doctor/patient relationship.

Now there are many other factors still to consider, and i would like more time to look at them, but one thing is certain, lies will not benefit the debate on the issues.
Root out the lies and debate with the truth.

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Wow....I was on a bus, paid for by me and 56 others. NOT BY A BILLIONAIRE unlike the busses paid for by ACORN and SEIU to get out the vote. I AM for REFORM not government run healthcare. We DO NOT hate Obama we disagree.......just like you lovely people disagreed with Bush...get over yourself...............

Michael Bryan said:
Well that is not good enough for the " MInority of Americans" who were in Washington DC yesterday who traveled by busses paid for by a billionaire oilman...................They HATE OBAMA, HEALTH CARE REFORM of any kind and want to see AMERICA'S and OBAMA FAILURE ......WHY, because their candidates didn't win last November 2008 ! AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THIER MINDS, Even if Jesus himself would endorse the bill, which he would have because he cared for people and their health and well-being !

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The AMA does not represent all Doctors, only about 17% of practicing physicians. The rank and file of the AMA are bringing forth a vote of NO CONFIDENCE against the board of directors of the AMA. And the AARP, well we all know WHY they are endorsing it. They also do not represent all seniors. Seniors are leaving The AARP in droves because they don't represent their interests. Get real will you. The lobbyists and special interests in DC are jockying for position. The majority of Americans do NOT support this health care bill and would rather pass nothing than what is on the table now. Check Rassmussen.com.

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Whatever Michael. You don't know the facts.

Michael Bryan said:
Well that is not good enough for the " MInority of Americans" who were in Washington DC yesterday who traveled by busses paid for by a billionaire oilman...................They HATE OBAMA, HEALTH CARE REFORM of any kind and want to see AMERICA'S and OBAMA FAILURE ......WHY, because their candidates didn't win last November 2008 ! AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THIER MINDS, Even if Jesus himself would endorse the bill, which he would have because he cared for people and their health and well-being !

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What ever. I don't know what your problem is Michael. I think for myself thank you very much. You keep this up and you'll be banned from this site! To answer your question I haven't gotten Sarah's book yet. It's not out yet.

Michael Bryan said:
And I can tell by the researched debate you present on this issue that you do know the facts......Right ! Wake up young lady ! Wake up ! Wait a minute, you didn't have any debate or facts.....you must be taken your political education from Sarah Palin.......now that's briliant Jessica !

Jessica1984 said:
Whatever Michael. You don't know the facts.
Michael Bryan said:
Well that is not good enough for the " MInority of Americans" who were in Washington DC yesterday who traveled by busses paid for by a billionaire oilman...................They HATE OBAMA, HEALTH CARE REFORM of any kind and want to see AMERICA'S and OBAMA FAILURE ......WHY, because their candidates didn't win last November 2008 ! AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THIER MINDS, Even if Jesus himself would endorse the bill, which he would have because he cared for people and their health and well-being !

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Michael, I never said anything about the AMA being against a public option. You must be thinking of someone else. I work with Doctors on a daily basis (well before the economic downturn, it's even rough in health care) and know that EVERY Doctor I have spoken with about this NONE of them are for this form of health care reform. And I know that every one of them do not belong to the AMA because "they do not represent them" and their oath of Do No Harm. Did you see the Doctors march on Washington? They are as concerned as the general public about the direction this administration is taking health care in this country. I hold no value in endorsements be they celebs or organizations. I think for myself and won't be led to the slaughter.

Also, I have never said I was a Republican. I've voted for Democratic Presidents AND Republican Presidents so I think that makes me an Independent. I did NOT vote for Obama, I had his number before he went on campaign. I was an Illinois resident for most of my life. I LIVED his policies. He's corrupt and too progressive for mainstream America. You only need to look at his relationships with the Unions and SEIU in particular to see he's just continuing the Chicago machine only on a national level. I will do everything in my power to see he is a one term president.

Michael Bryan said:
When the AMA was aginst the Health Care reform bill earlier this year, you folks were touting them as representing the Doctors as not wanting a public option and reform.........so now that they support it it's only represents 17% of doctors.......talk about SPIN, denial and misrepresenting the facts ! WOW !

Marilyn B said:
The AMA does not represent all Doctors, only about 17% of practicing physicians. The rank and file of the AMA are bringing forth a vote of NO CONFIDENCE against the board of directors of the AMA. And the AARP, well we all know WHY they are endorsing it. They also do not represent all seniors. Seniors are leaving The AARP in droves because they don't represent their interests. Get real will you. The lobbyists and special interests in DC are jockying for position. The majority of Americans do NOT support this health care bill and would rather pass nothing than what is on the table now. Check Rassmussen.com.

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Well said Claudette!!!!

Claudette said:
Wow....I was on a bus, paid for by me and 56 others. NOT BY A BILLIONAIRE unlike the busses paid for by ACORN and SEIU to get out the vote. I AM for REFORM not government run healthcare. We DO NOT hate Obama we disagree.......just like you lovely people disagreed with Bush...get over yourself...............

Michael Bryan said:
Well that is not good enough for the " MInority of Americans" who were in Washington DC yesterday who traveled by busses paid for by a billionaire oilman...................They HATE OBAMA, HEALTH CARE REFORM of any kind and want to see AMERICA'S and OBAMA FAILURE ......WHY, because their candidates didn't win last November 2008 ! AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THIER MINDS, Even if Jesus himself would endorse the bill, which he would have because he cared for people and their health and well-being !

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Michael,

You are just intimated by a female who wants to be President of the United States so you are taking it out on everybody else. Also you think that WE want America and Obama to fail. WRONG! I want MY country to win and succeed. IWE DO NOT hate Obama, IWE just don't like what he is doing to this country. Get YOUR facts straight buddy!!

Michael Bryan said:
And there you have it Claudette,
Another one of you, given the chance did not defend wanting to see America and Obama's failure just because your candidates didn't win last November.........The PROOF IS IS RIGHT HERE IN YOUR LACK OF WRITING.........SHAME ON YOU AND THE OTHERS LIKE YOU..........WHAT WOULD JESUS DO ? ENDORSE THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL, because he cared for people, their health and well-being........but not you folks........you just hate, fear and destroy......great values to live by........NOT !

Claudette said:
Wow....I was on a bus, paid for by me and 56 others. NOT BY A BILLIONAIRE unlike the busses paid for by ACORN and SEIU to get out the vote. I AM for REFORM not government run healthcare. We DO NOT hate Obama we disagree.......just like you lovely people disagreed with Bush...get over yourself...............

Michael Bryan said:
Well that is not good enough for the " MInority of Americans" who were in Washington DC yesterday who traveled by busses paid for by a billionaire oilman...................They HATE OBAMA, HEALTH CARE REFORM of any kind and want to see AMERICA'S and OBAMA FAILURE ......WHY, because their candidates didn't win last November 2008 ! AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THIER MINDS, Even if Jesus himself would endorse the bill, which he would have because he cared for people and their health and well-being !

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What a joke you are Michael. LOL!!!!

Michael Bryan said:
Jessica1984,

Actually I think a women President would be good for the United States...so wrong again ! ........just not someone who lives in fantasy world like you or Sarah ( Going Rouge ) Palin...... Jessica, can you see Russia from your backyard ?

Jessica1984 said:
Michael,

You are just intimated by a female who wants to be President of the United States so you are taking it out on everybody else. Also you think that WE want America and Obama to fail. WRONG! I want MY country to win and succeed. IWE DO NOT hate Obama, IWE just don't like what he is doing to this country. Get YOUR facts straight buddy!!

Michael Bryan said:
And there you have it Claudette,
Another one of you, given the chance did not defend wanting to see America and Obama's failure just because your candidates didn't win last November.........The PROOF IS IS RIGHT HERE IN YOUR LACK OF WRITING.........SHAME ON YOU AND THE OTHERS LIKE YOU..........WHAT WOULD JESUS DO ? ENDORSE THE HEALTH CARE REFORM BILL, because he cared for people, their health and well-being........but not you folks........you just hate, fear and destroy......great values to live by........NOT !

Claudette said:
Wow....I was on a bus, paid for by me and 56 others. NOT BY A BILLIONAIRE unlike the busses paid for by ACORN and SEIU to get out the vote. I AM for REFORM not government run healthcare. We DO NOT hate Obama we disagree.......just like you lovely people disagreed with Bush...get over yourself...............

Michael Bryan said:
Well that is not good enough for the " MInority of Americans" who were in Washington DC yesterday who traveled by busses paid for by a billionaire oilman...................They HATE OBAMA, HEALTH CARE REFORM of any kind and want to see AMERICA'S and OBAMA FAILURE ......WHY, because their candidates didn't win last November 2008 ! AND NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THIER MINDS, Even if Jesus himself would endorse the bill, which he would have because he cared for people and their health and well-being !

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I can agree that the health insurance companies are greedy. Prices these days are through the roof!!! I just wish that the government would control it so much. A little control isn't bad. But alot....I would love to have health insurance but I cannot afford it right now.

Michael Bryan said:
The House of Representatives are going to vote on it tonight, Saturday November 7th, 2009...........History again will be made tonight,

THANK GOD soon all Americans who want health care will have it and the greedy insurance companies will be put in check with their continued premium increases all the while they are paying for less and less services !

It's a great day for middle Americans !

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The reason it is difficult to have a reasonable conversation with the liberal fan(atics) is precisely because of the rediculous comments made such as your "minority of Americans" comment. If we were in the minority the men and women in congress would not be worrying about passing the bill, instead they are rightfully worried that they will not be reelected in 2010/2012.

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That statistic came out of a Physician's mouth. I would believe him way before I believe anyone attempting to "spin " this situation in their favor. I am a Registered Nurse. I talk with Doctors every day. I and many, many other nurses are also against this health care bill. If it passes the Senate...many of us will be leaving the field for other areas of work. Doctors will defect so quick it will make your head spin. I refuse to be told how much I can make and that I am "required" to join a union. Yes, it's in this bill. In order for hospitals to qualify for this ridiculous plan, they have to require a certain number of employees become union members. I refuse to be TOLD by the government where I can work and what organizations I MUST belong to. Thank God I live in Texas!

Michael Bryan said:
When the AMA was aginst the Health Care reform bill earlier this year, you folks were touting them as representing the Doctors as not wanting a public option and reform.........so now that they support it it's only represents 17% of doctors.......talk about SPIN, denial and misrepresenting the facts ! WOW !

Marilyn B said:
The AMA does not represent all Doctors, only about 17% of practicing physicians. The rank and file of the AMA are bringing forth a vote of NO CONFIDENCE against the board of directors of the AMA. And the AARP, well we all know WHY they are endorsing it. They also do not represent all seniors. Seniors are leaving The AARP in droves because they don't represent their interests. Get real will you. The lobbyists and special interests in DC are jockying for position. The majority of Americans do NOT support this health care bill and would rather pass nothing than what is on the table now. Check Rassmussen.com.

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Hey Obama, I've got a couple questions for you:

1. Isn't it your stated goal to extend coverage, and lower the cost of health care to all Americans? Aren't those Economic issues? Well...while it makes for great Photo Op to hand out white coats to a bunch of doctors you say support your plan, just what in the H does either AARP, or the AMA know about Free market Economics? In fact, considering you've never had a real job in your life, what do you know about Free Market Economics? Certainly no more than your predecessor, who's errors made it possible for you to be elected. You know it too, or you wouldn't keep trying to deflect attention from your socialist plans, and directed to Bush's failings. Man up, take responsibility for your economy, and your misguided socialist plans.

....more to follow:

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